2.13.2007
woman speakers
Recently I got into a conversation with a woman at our church about woman being allowed to speak and specifically speak to men (in a preaching kind of way). She was very strongly against and it's made me do a lot of research this week on it. More and more I'm convinced that saying woman aren't allowed to speak is placing God in a box... any thoughts?
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yeah i think i would agree with you. i'm guessing that the lady you were talking with was getting her opinion from church tradtion which bases it's arguments on that chapter in I corinthians. i remember flemming spending a lot of time on this and said that what paul said was for a specific time to a specific church. because of the role of women in that specific society (as prostitutes, temple slaves to false gods, that sort of thing), if they spoke in the church, it would be considered bad.
plus looking at all the other women that God used, even in the old testament, i think for Him to all of a sudden say that women shouldn't speak would not only be subversive, but also hypocritical.
i have other thoughts, but i'l stop for now...
the woman I was talking to is one of the pastors wives and she thinks woman are too emotional to be in leadership... to be president or anything. I've heard of that argument before and talked to my professor about it when I was at Vanguard and he argued that Jesus was one of the most emotional people to ever live. I said this to her and she said she thinks Jesus thinks differently than we do and I wish I would of thought of this then but can't we and aren't we suppose to take on the mind of Christ?
too emotional to be in leadership? what a cop out. i think that's a way of saying that God is too weak to help women (or even guys) gain control over their emotions. whatever happened to being "transformed by the renewing of out minds?" wouldn't emotions fall into that?
I concur.
Unfortunately, I'm too emotional to say anything else about it...
those were my thoughts exactly. My mom has big problems with this issue when she speaks at her church... people will get up and walk out because she's a woman. One thing that I'm a little confused about though is when paul brings up what happened in eden in 1 Timothy 2 and that's bringing up all these arguments that what Paul says about woman not speaking was intended to be permanent because Woman was the first one deceived in Eden they will continue in this way or something...?
nice comment jaralei. that made me smile...
I have no idea with that... i don't understand the whole childbearing thing. to be honest, it sounds a little hokey. like some science fiction movie. (i know its in the Bible, so as christians we are predisposed to believe it, but i have no idea what it means...)
i think that if an arhument is going to be based on only one verse/passage, the context isn't being taken into account. the letters in the Bible always had a specific context. maybe everything did...
but htne you can get into the whole "does the bible still apply if it was written for a specific context?" argument...
so yeah, i don't know if the I tim. is applicable... maybe it is, and all you girls had better shut up and start making babies. it's your only hope...
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